Indeed, U.S.A. is not America!
America is the name of a whole continent. United States of America means that the United States belongs to America and NOT that America belongs to the United States. So, next time you want to refer to The United States of America, you can do it as U.S. or the States or whatever you want but not as only America. Gotcha?
How should I use the term America then?
Here we will show you some wrong and correct uses of the term America:
This is how we do it in America.
This is how we do it in the States.
- America is my country and I love it.
- The United States is my country and I love it.
- America lost the Vietnam war.
- U.S.A. lost the Vietnam war.
- Here in America we love Mc Donald's.
- Here in the U.S. we love Mc Donald's.
Please, note that this page in not about demonyms (gentilics) but about the way to call a country.
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"The island of Parias, which is not a part or portion of the foregoing [America] but a large, special part of the fourth part of the world"
Schöner is wrong? You know more about it than he did? Please. Give us a break.
Oh, so if you support Schoners' interpretation why is it that you also agree that America is the whole continent? That Parias is not the name of the North side of this continent? What Happened? Do you think that maybe Schoner might had been wrong at some point? I am not saying he was, but that his idea did not really go with what happened later with the name encompassing the entire landmass and was accepted as the one continent of America?
Doesn't it occur to you that perhaps that the person who mapped that area of North of America found that that was the name the natives called that area and decided to write it on his writtings/maps and later this map was picked up by Gymnasium's owners and put it together with other maps such as those from Vespucci and Columbus and others which later were used to come up with the 1507 map? The name of the landmass the fourth part of the world thus the continent was given as America, other parts of these new lands had names as well. There were many navigators and cartographers around the time of discovery and after too, so things were being studied by the men in the gymnasium at St. Die to be able to make up the map that they made.
You don’t know more about the map than Waldseemüller, Ringmann, and Schöner. Also, you have posted so many factual inaccuracies, you have denied so many facts, and you have told so many lies, that nobody in their right mind would believe your BS. Nice try.
As someone who is South American born, yes please. The United Statians have stolen everything, even our identity as Americans.
https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/b3wxcj/why_i_think_we_should_call_the_us_the_united/
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Now he votes in batches!
“The name for the northern land mass, Parias, is derived from a passage in the Four Voyages of Amerigo Vespucci....”
“Parias was described by Waldseemüller's follower, Johannes Schöner as: "The island of Parias, which is not a part or portion of the foregoing [America] but a large, special part of the fourth part of the world", indicating uncertainty as to its situation.”
“PARIAS and AMERICA, corresponding to North and South America, are separated by a strait in the region of the present Panama on the main map but on the miniature map inset into the upper-mid part of the main map the isthmus joining the two is unbroken, apparently demonstrating Waldseemüller's willingness to represent alternative solutions to a question yet unanswered.”
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Waldseemüller_map
“North America is called ‘Parias’ – ‘America’ is used to label the South American coast all the way down to the present-day port of Cananéia, Brazil.”
https://bit.ly/34eXmPN
“Parias was described by Waldseemüller's follower, Johannes Schöner as: "The island of Parias, which is not a part or portion of the foregoing [America] but a large, special part of the fourth part of the world", indicating uncertainty as to its situation.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldseemüller_map
“Waldseemüller’s America actually identified what is today South America. “Parias” is the name Waldseemüller identified with what is today North America.”
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/thisday/apr25/america-beautiful/
“The Caribbean Islands, including ‘Isabella’ (Cuba) and ‘Spagnolla’ (Hispaniola), are shown off the eastern coast, in a sea labelled for the first time as ‘Oceanus Occidentalis’, or Western Sea. The continent supports Spanish claims to the region by flying the flag of Castile, but is not given the name of America. Instead, in its southern regions, it is named ‘Parias’ in capital letters. So the great birth certificate of America actually calls North America ‘Parias’, a word taken from Vespucci’s account of his meeting with the local inhabitants who used it to designate their homeland.
The map reserves the name ‘America’ to describe the southern land mass, and is placed in the location of modern-day Brazil.”
From: A History of the World in 12 Maps by Jerry Brotton; p. 174
Buy it today. Printed in the United States in America and released in 2014.
But before I proceed in bringing other information, I like to say that your idea that the name America changed its meaning after annexing north of the landmass/new world is a stretch. The meaning of America does not change just because the north was still being explored. I believe the name was to encompass the entire new world and not just the southern part of it. For one, the middle part, Central America was discovered before the south so it is implied that discoverers had more info on that part first. Thus, the name America was meant to mean all of those new world lands being discovered not just the south.
Then how do you explain the existence of the name ‘Parias’? You love Waldseemüller’s use of ‘America’, but you don’t like his use of ‘Parias’ because it destroys your false narrative, so you falsely claim that Waldseemüller named all of the Americas ‘America’ in 1507, even though he clearly and obviously only named South America as ‘America’. What about Parias? If he named all of the Americas as ‘America’, why is only South America labeled as such?, and why is North America labeled as ‘Parias’? You have never directly answered this question because it clearly exposes your falsehoods. Nice try.
Please don't assume for me. It would be interesting to find out why they wrote Parias there. But if you are a curious person, like I am, you will notice on the 1507 map that Asia is not written all over the continent but in a small place of the map that could be what it was Kasajistan. Same with Africa, it wasn't written all over the continent, but in small piece of it where Nigeria seems to be now. So, the idea that America was only written on what it seems what is now Brazil, is debatable.
What is Parias then? What about the Schöner quote?
“So, the idea that America was only written on what it seems what is now Brazil, is debatable.”
How exactly is it debatable? Where is ‘America’ written anywhere else other than over present-day Brazil? It is clearly not written over present-day North America, so there is nothing to debate about that. Please stop lying and fantasizing.