Yawn. He died about 160 years ago. Things are different now. Try again.

"What lies behind our having persuaded the entire world to call our country ''America''? It implies an unbecoming arrogance on the part of one segment of the vast Western Hemisphere.

Mr. Safire's review of the search for our national name answers that question.

However, I cannot so placidly resign myself to the inevitablity of our acceptance as the Americans. I remain stubbornly literal in my conviction that America is the Western Hemisphere.

I proclaim myself a ''United Statesian.'' That, I feel, is the name we should celebrate, and I do not find it awkward to pronounce. It should be our greatest source of pride that we are a ''United States'' - a union embracing an enormous wealth of human diversity with immense geographic dimensions. "

Rachel F. Weller Urbana (Jul 27, 1986)

Some people don’t like it. Not everyone has to like it.

To make things crystal clear, I am not arguing that everyone has to like, or has to use, America and American to refer to the US and its citizens. Most of my comments simply counter the nonsense that it is “incorrect” to use the names this way. It is not incorrect in any way because there are no real and authoritative laws of naming that say it’s incorrect. They simply do not exist. This is why none of you can ever post a citation or a link to any such law or rule.

It’s up for debate whether arrogance, ignorance, stupidity, or whatever is involved. Most of these claims are weak, wrong, and overblown. However, it is simply a fact that it isn’t “incorrect” to use the names to refer to the US and its citizens. People can choose to apply whichever names to whatever they want. There are no rules that say one usage is correct while another is incorrect. The dislike of some doesn’t mean it’s incorrect.

It seems you only live by dictates of the law? How about morals? Values? and respect? Common sense? and not everything in this life/world is ruled by law.

Whether Americans are aware or not of your supposed calculus, it doesn’t mean that it’s incorrect to use America and American to refer to the US and its citizens. And, again, it isn’t just Americans who use the names this way. That’s a fact that is very inconvenient for your “arguments” because you so desperately want to frame this as Americans being stupid and malicious.

Many citizens of the countries with the best education systems in the world use America and Americans to refer to the US and its citizens. Are they all stupid? Ignorant? Malicious? Hateful of Latin Americans? Are they all willingly serving an evil American calculus?

You have already established the willingness to believe and say anything in support of promoting and using the continental term American as if it were nationality.

How is it not a nationality? What rule says the word can’t correctly be used to refer to a nationality?

And I know what US passports say. Official government usage doesn’t define the only “correct” set of usages. Both official and unofficial names and usages exist.

What’s the rule that’s being violated? Is it a whole set of rules that clearly, logically, and inarguably explains how ‘America’ can be used to name many different things, but not a country? Does it also explain such things as how Mexico can name a city, a state, and a country, but America cannot name both a continent and a country?

We all know that you know that such rules don’t exist. Stop lying.

Instead of being Intellectually dishonest and advocating on behalf of what you know to be false, why not just accept the fact that the United States is but one of many countries founded in America and an appropriate term for its citizens would be U.S. American?

I have always accepted that there are more countries than just America in the Americas. You already know this. Your dishonesty is so pathetic and tiresome.

US American is perfectly fine for whoever wants to use it. It has its meaning because people have given it that meaning. This is exactly why ‘American’ means US citizen. It has this meaning because people have given it this meaning.

actually, it's not entirely in America, so including american in the demonym is stupid.

We don’t have to change the demonym just because we added a state outside of the Americas. It’s your “reasoning” that is stupid.

They have bought the notion that has been ingrained in people's minds that America is the name of a country rather than a continent. Because most think the continent's name is "The Americas" and not "America". Perhaps if they were taught that America is still the name of the continent, people will then come to the conclusion that we are discussing here regarding the erroneous usage by the U.S. of the name of the continent. But they had a good plan, the renaming of the continent helps their cause.

USA has no de jure official language

It isn’t erroneous to call the US ‘America’. There’s no rule of naming that says it’s erroneous to call the US ‘America’.

the saying goes "just because everyone is doing it, does not make it right"

Just because biased, dimwitted ignoramuses like you and your kind say it, doesn’t make it true.

It’s not just English-speaking countries that call the US ‘America’.

Yes we know that people call the U.S. as "America" if it wasn't that it is what happening we wouldn't be here discussing the issue.

Wow. Someone wrote that two years ago. That’s a greatest hit in your eyes?

It is especially stupid to see 1 or more downvotes for your comment being as that original comment made by Rosalie Maggio (United States) from 2 years ago did not have any downvotes for writing that.

So how can the same message have 4 downvotes as of now, when of course you/Ibrahim have/has only sent a copy of Rosalie Maggio‘s message? It makes no sense!

Therefore Ibrahim really has 10 upvotes and 0 DOWNVOTES! It is not at all 4 downvotes as it currently shows, which is going to remain stupidly shown.

Also, Any repeat of that original comment - written by Rosalie Maggio - WILL REMAIN AT 0 DOWNVOTES! Therefore, Any higher number above 0 that is given for “Thumbs Down” ARE “an error”, “invalid or false numbers”, “misleading” and “mistakes” TO BE SHOWN for Dislikes/Disagreements. That’s 1+ for 👎.

I said some Spanish speakers, especially in Spain, called the US ‘América’. You then falsely claimed that the quote I provided disproved this. “Spain?? Not according to the Real Academia Espanola…”. What the hell are you talking about? Your reading comprehension isn’t just terrible in English, it’s also terrible in your native language. What’s wrong with you?

“…probando que en la actualidad estas palabras son generalmente usadas en referencia a los Estados Unidos…”. You are so stupid that you think the RAE advising against using the words this way means that some Spaniards don’t use the words this way. The quote clearly says the words are used this way. The RAE advises against it because it occurs. If it didn’t occur, they wouldn’t advise against it. If I had claimed that the RAE recommended that usage, then this quote would prove me wrong. I didn’t claim that, so it doesn’t prove me wrong. It clearly proves my statement to be correct. How can you not understand this simple fact?

And using your same rhetoric, you are missing a small screw up there thinking you score points with what you just alleged. If you have been paying attention, this website and others like me, have been here to discuss the erroneous usage of the name America and the many people who have been brainwashed with that all over the world.

The usage is erroneously spreading around the world otherwise there would be no issue and this forum would not exist. Got it?

What you just wrote has nothing to do with you being wrong by thinking that the RAE advising against it meant that it didn’t happen.

“Spain?? Not according to the Real Academia Espanola and you yourself quoted it in here…”.

You were totally wrong when you wrote this. Dodging the issue by writing about unrelated things doesn’t change the fact that you were 100% wrong. Nice try.

América. 1. Debe evitarse la identificación del nombre de este continente con los Estados Unidos de América (→ Estados Unidos, 4), uso abusivo que se da sobre todo en España.

http://lema.rae.es/dpd/srv/search?id=hBnnxR9MOD6YmtLAqN

This also proves that some Spaniards call the US ‘América’. Again, the fact that they recommend against it proves that some people do it, not that they don’t, you dimwit.

Spain?? Yes. Spain.

“…que se da sobre todo en España.”

You only noticed it because it’s glaringly obvious. You won’t understand anything that requires more than a few of your brain cells to be firing properly.

Your misrepresentations, stupidity, and dishonesty are insulting.