You only noticed it because it’s glaringly obvious. You won’t understand anything that requires more than a few of your brain cells to be firing properly.

Your misrepresentations, stupidity, and dishonesty are insulting.

Ah, so now you were joking! How many more times you were just joking with your statements? Should we take them all with a grain of salt? Also, your continued position on two continents and the name of the continent you and many were taught to be "The Americas" puts you in the position that you really don't accept that the continent, one and only one, is named America. As soon as you support the two continent idea you loose the argument that you believe that the continent is one and that its name is America. David it is either one or the other. Yes we know that people mistakenly think of two continent in The Americas, but this same thought is the one that cancels out what we are here discussing and that is that America is still a continent.

You moron. I consider the Americas to be two continents because that is the convention I was taught at school. I also accept that people see it as one continent and, unlike you, I have absolutely no problem with the fact that other people follow this different convention. It isn’t incorrect. It’s just different. None of the various naming conventions for the continents are incorrect.

I also accept the fact that it was common in English in the past to refer to all of the Americas as ‘America’. It is a fact that ‘America’ nowadays almost always refers to the USA in English.

Why can’t you understand that I am just accepting that different people use different naming conventions, and that these conventions change over time? I am not saying that they are wrong. The only thing that is wrong is when people like you falsely claim that anything that is different from your preferences is “incorrect”.

David going back to the time you were into that joke I have some quotes of yours that might give us a different view: "Davidsays...

It can only be seen in different ways if you are being dishonest, which is what you are. The quotes clearly show that Parias and America were considered separate lands. So Parias isn’t America. So America isn’t all of the New World. So when you call all of the Americas ‘America’, you are not using the original meaning of the word. Stop lying.

3 years ago05

Davidsays...

He specifically says that Parias is not part of America. Only a liar or a very stupid person would claim that “one can see it in many different ways.”

3 years ago" Ah, and also your insults are noticeable too

Yes, even you have the mental capacity to notice those insults.

I was making those statements in reference to what the creators of the 1507 map thought of Parias and America. They considered them to be two separate lands, not one continent. This is a fact.

Do you really not understand that I can make factual statements about what other people thought, even when I think differently, and even when they might not be correct about everything? If someone tells me the Earth is only 1000 years old, and I report what they said, my reporting of what they said doesn’t mean that I agree with them. The fact that Waldseemüller, Ringmann, and Schöner called North America ‘Parias’, and that I have stated this fact, doesn’t mean that I have to call it that.

Are you really so stupid that you don’t understand this? You really think that because I mention many different naming conventions and conceptions of continents, that I must use all these different names myself? Your idiocy deserves insults.

Oh, so that was you? So you had that position before you changed to another position. You keep changing your position on the subject and telling that it is our fault that we don't see that you have always thought one way and that old exchange was about you trying to say that originally America was not to name the continent but a part of S.A. Just by having written this about Parias and S.A. you were showing you had a different position then. The way America got its name does not in any way give the U.S. the chance to steal its name. If they wrote the name on a map where S.A. is now, does not change that the entire continent's name is America.

You will always be dumber than dirt. How have I been inconsistent? Please try your best to clearly explain your so-called point.

When one is loosing an argument, the best way to attack is by insulting. Those who claim to be of higher IQ need to have patience with the rest humble minds.

How am I losing? Why don’t you ever provide any proof?

You really twist meanings don't you? I said I was just in Spain and talked with people and they thought the continent was America! This was my experience and was explaining it to the group. Did I see all Spaniards? Everyone in Spain? From Spain? NO so you took the words and twisted it. Or if you can prove that I said that nobody in Spain calls the USA America show it to me!

Is this you: "Davidsays...

If we have to follow the Waldseemüller map, then you are wrong to use the name ‘America’ for the Americas. The Waldseemüller map names North America as ‘Parias’ and South America as ‘America’. So, since we have to follow Waldseemüller, it is INCORRECT to use the name ‘America’ for all of the Americas. ‘America’ is only the name for South America. THE AMERICAS ARE NOT AMERICA!!!!! WE MUST FOLLOW THE WALDSEEMÜLLER MAP!!!!

30th May 2019 9:25pm"

David is this you??? "Davidsays...

“America is what the New World was named in 1507.”

Wrong. America is what SOUTH AMERICA was named in 1507.

It makes me frustrated and sad that there are people like you who will totally and obviously misrepresent what a source says. Your false words do not change the fact of how the 1507 map is labeled. Your lies don’t change what Schöner knew and said about Parias and America. We can all look at the map and see that you are wrong. How do you explain that what you are writing doesn’t agree with the map?

5th June 2019 3:29pm"

That’s also me. Are any of these going to show you proving me wrong instead of me proving you wrong? We already know I have proved you wrong many times and that you have never proved me wrong.

I can’t wait to see what lies, absurd “reasoning”, and straw man arguments you are going to concoct with these quotes of mine. This should be special.

I don't remember ever that you have proven me wrong. But instead you seemed to have disappeared when someone or I brought up something that proved your position wrong.

What was this that you wrote please explain: "THE AMERICAS ARE NOT AMERICA!!!!! WE MUST FOLLOW THE WALDSEEMÜLLER MAP!!!!" Here you wrote and in capital letters that the continent (known by you and others) is not America. That the Americas are not America, you insinuate that there are two Americas and thereby you believe that the continent which was coined America now has been parted into two. So you do believe in two continents but those are not the original America you seem to be saying you now agree to.

Yes, I wrote that. I was being facetious. I wrote that because of people like you. You would repeatedly claim that ‘America’ could only refer to all of the Americas because of the 1507 map. I pointed out the fact that the 1507 map names only South America as ‘America’. I asked you point blank many, many times what is SA labeled as and what is NA labeled as on the map. You refused many, many times to answer. As far as I know, you still haven’t admitted these obvious facts.

I obviously wasn’t serious. I don’t call NA ‘Parias’ in casual conversation, and I apply ‘the Americas’ to both continents. I was simply pointing out that if we had to follow the Waldseemüller map, which we don’t have to do, then we would have to call only SA ‘America’.

Thanks for reminding me of another thing I proved you wrong about. And there was also the time that you didn’t know that the US took half of Mexico’s land after conquering Mexico city, the major port of Vera Cruz, and other important locations.

The 1507 map was brought up to show people that the new world was named America and I told you that as they figured there was more land which was discovered that was part of that new body of land, landmass, that was part of the original name "America". I think you just like to pin point small unnecessary details just for the sake of arguing and not constructive approach to find out about the issue at hand. That is obvious when you recur to insults and name callings which don't belong in discussion with civil and educated people.

It is an important fact that ‘America’ didn’t originally refer to all of the Americas. It’s important because it counters the BS argument of people like you that ‘America’ can only refer to all of the Americas because that was its original referent. It wasn’t its original referent. It originally referred to just SA. You appeal to the etymological fallacy. If that fallacy actually dictated how names can be used, and it doesn’t, then ‘America’ would only refer to SA, not all of the Americas. This is what your “logic” and “reasoning” would dictate. But you’re wrong, so ‘America’ can and does refer to various things.

David is this you??? "Davidsays...

It can only be seen in different ways if you are being dishonest, which is what you are. The quotes clearly show that Parias and America were considered separate lands. So Parias isn’t America. So America isn’t all of the New World. So when you call all of the Americas ‘America’, you are not using the original meaning of the word. Stop lying.

6th June 2019 11:35am05"

That’s me. What are you going to pretend you’re proving now?

I’ve stated these things many times: ‘America’ originated as a name for S. America; it was soon used to name all of the Americas; & later it was used to refer to the US. I’ve also stated many times that I’m well aware that other people use the name differently. Please stop being dishonest by pretending that I am arguing against these points.

I really don't have the time to go back and look for your quotes. But you might and would you please enlighten us with the post and quote where after you have said many times that South America was the only part named America and the rest was Parias and then you say you have said that later the whole continent was named "America". You have not proven me wrong on anything but when I prove my points on many things you all of the sudden and conveniently disappeared.

You have never taken a direct quote of anything I have written and then proved it wrong. If you had, you would provide an example.